A few have asked the question what did Art speak about at IHOP? I was just at Ben Israel site and found this that Art spoke at Kansas City, IHOP in 2006.
Judge for yourself,
Blessings,
Susan
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Sent From God
By Art Katz
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An edited transcript of message # K-IHOP-06.
(Kansas City, Jan. 2006)
This morning I feel impressed to share with you a new word that has come out of the recent ministry days in Mexico, and which I believe is going to be a significant arrow in the Lord’s quiver. I am not even sure of its full meaning, but can only say that it resonates and hints at significant things in our understanding of God. As with every word from heaven, you can get from it what you will, or you can just as equally get nothing at all. Or later on, all of a sudden, the word will spring to life in the sovereign purposes of God.
The text is from Isaiah 6.
In the year that king Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and His train filled the temple.
Above Him stood the seraphim: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. And one cried unto another, and said, “Holy, holy, holy, is Jehovah of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.”
And the foundations of the thresholds shook at the voice of Him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke.
Then said I, “Woe is me! For I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, Jehovah of hosts.”
Then flew one of the seraphim unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar: and he touched my mouth with it, and said, “Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin forgiven.”
And I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?”
Then I said, “Here am I; send me.”
And He said, “Go, and tell this people, ‘Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.’ Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they sea with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and turn again, and be healed.”
Then said I, “Lord, how long?” And He answered, “Until cities be waste without inhabitant, and houses without man, and the land become utterly waste, and Jehovah has removed men far away, and the forsaken places be many in the midst of the land. And if there be yet a tenth in it, it also shall in turn be eaten up: as a terebinth, and as an oak, whose stock remaineth, when they are felled; so the holy seed is the stock thereof” (Isaiah 6:1-13)
I was quite surprised when the Lord quickened this and underlined ways of perceiving the text not previously considered. But I think it is going to be one of those seminal messages that come forth every now and then, the rhema word of God that may not immediately be understandable to all to whom it comes. If it doesn’t fit right now, do not set it aside, but I do believe that what was suddenly and dramatically exposed in this sixth chapter was pivotal for all of Isaiah’s future prophetic use as well as the issue of Israel’s destiny.
Are you guilty with me of having too airily dismissed this account as some kind of mystic vision of the Lord? Somewhere high and lifted up with His train filling the temple in some kind of hyper-state of glory? Why would it affect the prophet so as to cause him to pronounce his being undone? My own suggestion is that the prophet saw the King in the greatest moment of His majesty. In other words, God in His deepest essence was brought to a point of such expression that anyone who contemplates that moment rightly has got to be altogether devastated and undone. With that in mind, I am led to believe Isaiah saw the crucifixion of the King, because nothing reveals the majesty of God more than in the depth of His suffering, experienced and borne for us as atonement!
You may ask how Isaiah could have seen the crucifixion of Jesus six or seven centuries before the actual event. Let us not forget that the Lord was ‘slain from before the foundations of the earth were laid.’ If we only see the crucifixion of Jesus as a historical event in a point of time, we will be marred and limited in our Christian walk. Our walk will of necessity be with a minimal comprehension of the crucifixion as a body of doctrine to which we must agree, but we have not seen the glory. And unless we see the glory, there never will be any sending.
This is not just a chance episode in the life of the prophet; it is the unfolding of a remarkable pattern; a sequence of events by which the prophet, who already had a ministry and was already cautioning and warning the nation of its sin from the very first chapter of his book, now enters a new dimension. His subsequent ministry as one sent was no longer merely to warn or to caution, but to judge. His word would now constitute judgment. They will not hear, they will not see, their hearts will be dulled because the prophet has spoken to them in a new depth of urgency and weight and authority as one sent.
How many of us have sufficiently dwelt on the word sent as we ought? Do we understand the significance of the difference between one who went and the one who is sent? However well-meaning it might be, is not most of our Christian activity self-initiated or committee determined? Do we know, and I mean really know, what it is to be sent from the One who is enthroned?
My own observation is that the overwhelming majority of Christians have a self-motivated itch to go and to do, to be seen and to cut a swathe for themselves and their ministry, but we are not seeing sendings of the kind that initiated the early history of the Church. Those that were sent turned the world upside-down. Do we sufficiently honor and esteem the phenomenon of sending? Do we understand the difference between the consequences of the work that results from one sent in comparison to the work of one who is self-initiated in his going? Are we even assured that the world needs to be turned upside-down? Or do we see the world as needing merely to be modified and have some of its excesses reduced? Do we see the world as being evil? Are we chafed by its immorality, even its a-morality? Do we have the basis for comparison that would be ours once having seen the Lord high and lifted up?
Everything hinges upon seeing the Lord as the Lord, because after forty-one years in the faith and in world-wide ministry, touching and examining the Church in its best forms, I would have to say that my greatest grief over the condition of the Church, its leadership and its prominent ministers is that they do not know God as God. They do not know Him as He in fact is. Without this knowledge of God, we are condemned to a hollow counterfeit much more in harmony with our own approving ambition and intentions. Consequently, there is no fear of God, and we will find ourselves taking liberties and initiating conduct that was not sent from Heaven. Everything rests on seeing the Lord high and lifted up and enthroned in His majestic glory and brought to perfection in the moment of His most excruciating suffering at Calvary. That is what this prophet saw, and he cried out “I am undone! I am a man of unclean lips!”
The problem is not the unclean lips; but ‘I am a man.’ We do not know how deeply humanistic man is as man. We do not see how deeply the intrinsic nature of man is opposed to God. We do not see how our ambitions and self-initiated activity could possibly be an act of direct rebellion against God. We do not see our unwillingness to wait to be sent as being any particular offense. Isaiah saw himself. “Woe is me, I am undone, I am a man.” And if I am a man, of necessity my lips are going to be defiled, even though a prophet.
Until we agree and come to this low estimation of ourselves, we will always suffer the loss of the high exaltation of God. The two things are inextricably joined. Who of us thinks they can perceive the truth of themselves as man? Is not our estimation of ourselves far out of proportion to the way in which we really need to see ourselves? Is not the reason we are able to indulge such exaltation because we have no basis for comparison? Do we not see ourselves only in comparison to others? By so doing, are we not rather imagining our own superiority? When you see yourself in comparison to God, however, you become as a dead man.
This is the way of sanity; this is truth; this is reality; it is the foundation of any true sending. Why would God send half-baked believers anywhere into the world? What are they going to communicate? They cannot communicate anything that exceeds where they themselves are in their own estimation. Yes, they might bring some measure of good, but they are not going to turn anybody’s world upside-down. Only one who is sent from the Throne bears the authority and anointing of that One who sends.
“Who will go for us?” The word ‘who’ haunts me; it suggests very few candidates. How often do you find a believer who has risen above the prevailing culture and the correctness of his doctrine, and who really knows God as God, who sees God as terrifying, stupefying and vast? When was the last time you met someone who has seen God in His greatest act, namely, the revelation of the nature of God in His suffering and death, which had ever and always been His nature? The only thing that the Cross did was reveal what God always was and is. God is a servant. He is a sent one Himself from the Father.
What did it mean for this sent Son, who had lived eternally in the presence of the Father, to forsake that exalted and unimaginable condition of relationship, and to come down to this crusty globe and take upon himself the form of a man? He began life as a helpless infant laid in a manger and suffered everything that was required of an earthly, human existence as a Jew and as a son of David, a son of Abraham and as a son of Adam, so to speak. We do not know the humility of God until we have rightly pondered what it meant for the Son to come down into this Earth. It was the crucifixion before the crucifixion. Every instance of it, every act of it is the issue of self-denial; it is the issue of compassion and concern for other at the expense of oneself. We need to probe and examine this more than any other consideration, more than our yearnings to become sophisticated in understanding the Last Days movement of the Jews and the Church’s mandate during that time.
“Who shall go for us?” We are back to that piercing question. The only one who can go is the one who has seen, and having seen, comes to such a place of repulsion over himself that he is undone. This was Isaiah, the prince of the prophets speaking. If he could say, “I am undone” at the seeing of God as He really is in His glory, what shall we say? And until we say it with the same heart-piercing cry, we will never be a candidate for being sent. But, what does this whole cosmic drama wait on? The text itself tells us: “In the year that king Uzziah died.” What would the Lord be trying to say here? Did the Holy Spirit give that just as an historic index so we could date this event because we know the life-span of this king? Or does the death of the king have something to do with the revelation given to the prophet? What would you suspect?
My own intuition is that the death of the king is the decisive factor that set in motion the entire episode. But, why is this so important? Why does a death have to necessarily precede a revelation of this magnitude? This is a revelation that issues in a call, and the call issues in a judgment upon Israel by a prophet going forth as a sent one. And not only that, but it is a judgment upon Israel that is still valid to this day. Israel is still bound; its eyes are closed nationally-speaking; its heart is numb; it cannot see, cannot hear and cannot understand. Jews are civil and gracious on any other subject, but on this they become impenetrable because the judgment has been decreed.
Apart from a few ‘remnant’ Jews like myself, the nation itself presently stands under this judgment. You wonder why so many Christians eagerly believe God has called them to be prophets. That eagerness betrays their own over-estimation of themselves. What if your speaking would mean a necessary judgment for the hearers? Some measure of judgment goes forth in the prophetic proclamation that is designed to bring to death areas of the flesh that are impudent, untrained and undisciplined and need this judgment. It is not a pleasant task. Only those who are dead and see themselves as undone are the ones who are capable of going and pronouncing that kind of judgment. It is all the same to them whether the hearers are blessed or judged. The issue is obedience to a ‘Go, and say to them…’
We are moving towards a concluding episode in the salvational history of mankind with regards to the people Israel. Israel is under judgment through a prophetic word, but the judgment needs to be reversed and the people be released by another sending. If it took a sending to bring the judgment, in my opinion, it will take a sending to end the judgment. There needs to be a ‘prophetic’ company of believers as the Church of the Last Days, who have seen the Lord and know Him in His majesty, high and lifted up, and who are stricken to death at their own vain presumptions about themselves. They are those who see themselves ‘as good as dead,’ and unless a coal comes off the altar of God, they will not presume that they can speak for God.
From the text we know that God does not in any way placate the prophet; He is silent, but sends an angel with a coal from the altar, clearly implying that He is in complete agreement with the prophet’s own estimation of himself. The important point to note is the reaction of the prophet to the revelation of God in His resplendent majesty as crucified evoking such a sense of his own shame. Karl Barth, my favorite theologian, the great German-Swiss thinker clearly understood this reality when he wrote: “The reality of sin cannot be known or described except in relation to the one who has vanquished it.”
How many of us can say that we know the reality of sin? And I am absolutely assured that if we do not know the reality of sin as God sees it and as Isaiah saw it, we have no reality. The reality of sin is the necessary foundation of all human reality, and if we do not have it, all of our grandiose categories about redemption and the Cross are only just a vapor; they are ‘sound and fury signifying nothing.’ More than we know, we have unsuspectingly reduced our beliefs to a body of doctrine. Our agreement with certain evident truths will never effect anything in us or in the world. And why would God send anyone in that condition? Has He nothing better to do, no better candidate to send than someone with a shallow notion of sin? Why would He send anyone who has fallen short of the acknowledgement of His glory, and who has little knowledge of what atonement means or what He has paid to obtain it? Paul could say, “Paul knew the terror of the Lord with regard to sin, and therefore could persuade men.” This kind of knowing needs to be an object of our highest priority. How do we come to know the reality or the terror of sin, realizing that that is the underlay of everything? What did Jesus do and perform that was so consequential, worthy of our admiration, let alone our adoration if we do not understand what He met in His death?
Have we noticed how the world is dying, without foundations and oblivious to eternity? Has the world been told what sin is or what judgment and hell are? Has it not rather dispensed with Jesus as a peripheral nothing, celebrated at Christmas time to give the department stores the occasion for our orgies of buying? Even Japan has a Christmas. The world has turned the Advent of the birth of the Son, who met the sin problem in His death, into a culture for commerce. How is it that we are not chafed over that? How is it that we can so easily join the world right into those stores and indulge ourselves as much as any rather than boycott the event itself? Have we been able to persuade Jewish life of the terror of sin? Or do they look upon our celebration of Christmas as just a harmless, Gentile equivalent of their Chanukah? Is not their Chanukah as much a false piece of baloney as our Christmas? And the world continues to spiral down into death while these things are celebrated as being somehow real.
There needs to be a great cry going out from Christendom that we have not seen or perceived rightly the great, central event of history, the Advent of the Son from Heaven who took upon Himself the form of a man, Jewish man, and suffered the consequence for the sin of mankind in order to appease the honor of His Father, who had been disgraced by a sinful, covenant-breaking humanity. Until that revelation has broken upon our hearts and until we have seen sin in the context of the suffering, the humility and the anguish of His soul, we have not the knowledge of sin and therefore everything will suffer in proportion.
Do we really know how vile evil is? How intrinsic it is to man and to his nature? I don’t mean man’s most malicious things, but when he is acting at his best. To have an inadequate sense of sin is to have an inadequate sense of God. If we have a low estimation of sin how than can we exalt God? Is this not the thing that keeps us from adoration of God in its truest and deepest sense? When we do come to true adoration, we will have come to the ultimate place of relationship with God that is transcendent and breaks through in realms of worship and praise that cannot be imitated or effected in lesser places. I believe this is the place of reality that releases the authority and power of God on the basis that we can now be trusted by the Living God.
We need to have an esteem for the word ‘sent’ which comes through in the Greek word apostolos, meaning a ‘sent one.’ Will we be willing to wait, knowing that we are presently unqualified and that we have nothing really to communicate that would turn the world upside-down? Will we be willing to wait for God to impart to us an authority to face nations or peoples who are intrinsically hostile or indifferent to our message? The only way that anyone will begin to rightly hear us is dependent upon their recognition that indeed we are sent ones in the authority of God, bearing a sent word.
From the text we have seen that Israel’s present condition as a nation has been condemned to judgment, because a prophet came who was sent and spoke and performed it. Nothing has changed from that day to the present one. The ‘until’ has not yet come, and when it comes it will come in apocalyptic devastation and ruin in present-day Israel. My intuition is that the judgment that came by prophetic speaking needs to be relieved by prophetic speaking. Where are the Isaiahs of our generation? Where can we conceive of a corporate sending, a ‘corporate Isaiah’ who could be sent, whose speaking now will open eyes rather than close them, open hearts rather than close them, save rather than condemn?
I believe it is waiting for those who are sent, waiting for those who have seen the truth of their condition and have cried out over it, because they have seen the Lord as He is, high and lifted up. But what precipitates everything? The year that Uzziah dies! When we can say ‘Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord of Hosts’ and that ‘the whole earth is full of His glory,’ not just in triumphal moments, but in the moments of death and disappointment and what seem to be the severest contradictions of God, then we have arrived! We have come to the true knowledge; we have seen the Lord and we have seen ourselves as He sees us. Only then will He purge and send us.
Prayer:
I want to pray now, that if you do not know who your Uzziah is for you, that the Lord will show it. There are various forms of Uzziah: it could be a person, a ministry, some personal ambition. “My God, we have quoted that text; we have used it as sermons. We thought we knew it and understood it, but we ourselves were not affected and did not understand the supremacy of one sent from the throne of Heaven. We are so alive to our own itch ourselves that we have not wanted to wait for that. We have taken every door of opportunity to minister in response to the needs everywhere in the Earth that would welcome high-spirited and bright young believers to bring blessing. But the Earth yet remains in its curse and still needs to be turned on its head.
Lord, search us out and reveal to us who that Uzziah is. Is he likely not someone who is presumptuous in the realm of ministry and tries to usurp the function of priests because he is a king or leader, and we admired that one and wanted to be identified with that one? We therefore share something of his presumption, which is why he has to die for us and we have to die for him if we are to see the Lord as he in fact is, namely, high and lifted up.
Come and bring us into that agreement with the seraphim that qualifies us to be sent ones; those who do not bring a merely cultural, time-dated perspective but a timeless view of the angels of God who forever perceive the glory of God. Bring us to this apostolic and prophetic place, for Israel’s sake, needing to be freed from the judgment that has been imposed upon it by the speaking of a prophet, by a fresh and new speaking of a prophetic company who can be sent, whose speaking will open the blind eyes, open the deaf ears, open the closed hearts that they might be saved! What a destiny of the Church at the conclusion of the age! Thank you for the preciousness of the call, in Jesus’ name. Amen.”
Scripture verses from the Authorized Standard Version of the Bible
Transcription by Lars Wideberg
Editing for printing by Simon Hensman
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Friday, July 25, 2008
Monday, July 21, 2008
The Post-American dream-Review-Sunday Specials-Opinion-The Times of India
QUOTE:
I am returning to America after a gap of nearly five years, and it seems that I am in a nation in palpable decline. In the mid-1990s, when I was an undergraduate at Columbia University, the dollar was strong, the stock market was booming, and New York was the vibrant centre of the world's art and finance. Now, after eight years of George W Bush's presidency, a real sense of long-term national decline is setting in. One of the year's best-selling books was Fareed Zakaria's The Post-American World.
The economy is in recession and crime is rising. The infrastructure of the United States—hospitals, schools, local transportation—is sorely crying out for new investment, but the country has bankrupted itself in Iraq. As one left-wing American pastor recently said: "America's chickens are coming home to roost."
Read full article here:
The Post-American dream-Review-Sunday Specials-Opinion-The Times of India
I am returning to America after a gap of nearly five years, and it seems that I am in a nation in palpable decline. In the mid-1990s, when I was an undergraduate at Columbia University, the dollar was strong, the stock market was booming, and New York was the vibrant centre of the world's art and finance. Now, after eight years of George W Bush's presidency, a real sense of long-term national decline is setting in. One of the year's best-selling books was Fareed Zakaria's The Post-American World.
The economy is in recession and crime is rising. The infrastructure of the United States—hospitals, schools, local transportation—is sorely crying out for new investment, but the country has bankrupted itself in Iraq. As one left-wing American pastor recently said: "America's chickens are coming home to roost."
Read full article here:
The Post-American dream-Review-Sunday Specials-Opinion-The Times of India
Sunday, July 20, 2008
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Wednesday, June 25, 2008
"THE CHURCH of the USA will be FILTERED BY DECEPTION"--given by Steven Dobbs (U.K.), 2005
"THE CHURCH of the USA will be FILTERED BY DECEPTION"
-given by Steven Dobbs (U.K.), 2005.
I received this from the Holy Spirit in early summer 2005. The
Lord showed me that there is going to be a flood of deception*
infiltrating much of the U.S church in the near future, (the gift of
discernment of spirits is therefore going to become increasingly
important). Why the Lord will allow these deceptions: I was
extremely disheartened by this as the U.K receives a lot of help
from some good U.S ministries and there are close links between
these two nations.
The Spirit then ministered to me again and showed me that God
was sovereign and that this was His will. I saw that although this
increase in deception will test the Christians in the U.S.A. It will
also filter the global church from the less reliable U.S teaching
ministries and reduce their influence in the global body of Christ.
Many of the world's largest and best known teaching ministries
come from the U.S.A. I was shown that many were propagating
poor, badly emphasized or erroneous teachings. The Lord showed
me that He could not allow them to continue influencing the
worldwide church as they are at present. This is because we will
soon be entering into the end times and this season will test the
faith of all of us. God therefore wants His people to be prepared for
this with good teachings that have the same emphasis as found in
the New Testament.
The filtering process: I was shown that the ministers that teach
errors or a poor emphasis will also tend to have this reflected in
their own walk with God. They will not therefore be rooted very
deeply into the truth themselves even though many of them may
be well known teachers or preachers. These people will therefore
tend to be amongst those most open to this flood of deception.
When exposed to such deception many of them will start to move
in increased spiritual error and folly as a result. Many will get
deceived as they fail to discern the difference between which
spiritual phenomena are of the Lord and which are counterfeit and
from the enemy. Their true spiritual maturity will then be revealed
for all to see.
Many other Christians from around the world, those who are able
to discern these things better, will then start to question the
maturity and teachings of such ministries. They will start to look
more closely at these teachings and notice the errors and wrong
emphases that already exist, errors that they had not noticed
before. People will then start to turn away from the worst teachers
and listen instead to those who are teaching the full council of God
in line with the whole of scripture. The overall level of teaching in
the global body of Christ will improve as a result of this.
How this will realign ministries: The ministries which have the
poorest levels of teaching will become less popular around the
world as a result of this. Those teaching ministries that are the
most mature and have the best quality teaching will become more
popular than before. The overall quality of teaching ministries in
the global body of Christ will therefore improve as a result of this
filtering effect.
The "prosperity gospel": God showed me that one of the main
teachings that He is concerned about is that which has become
known as the "prosperity gospel". Although truths are taught within
this I understood that errors and wrong emphases are taught as
well. At present this teaching has a great deal of influence in the
global body of Christ. This results in many believers around the
world taking on board the errors and wrong emphases contained
within it. I saw that the Lord does not want this situation to
continue. We are heading into the end times in the near future and
God wants us to be strong, built up with good, solid teachings that
prepare us for the difficulties we are going to encounter and the
sacrifices we may have to make to follow Christ.
A realigning of national churches at a global level: The Lord wants
those national churches that are submitting the most to Him to
have the greatest proportion of well known ministries at a global
level. The Spirit showed me that at present the U.S.A is over-
represented by such ministries. This filtering process will reduce
the number of influential U.S ministries on the world stage. At the
same time, other ministries from other nations will become more
popular and will increase in influence as a result of this. The overall
church of the U.S.A will also therefore lose some of its influence
within the global body of Christ because of this filtering. The
churches of some other nations, (those that have been submitting
the most to Christ), will, however, see an increase in their
influence in the global church.
This is God's will and the global body of Christ will be strengthened
as a result. The Lord wants the body of Christ to be led by, and
follow the example of, the best international ministries. He also
wants the global church to be influenced the most by those
national churches that are submitting the most to Jesus.
The better ministries from the U.S.A: I was then shown a picture
of a vessel of milk which had cream floating to the top of it. The
interpretation was that as this filtering takes place, and the overall
level of deception* increases in the U.S church, the better U.S
ministries will then come to the forefront at a global level. I
understood that many of these were presently only medium sized
ministries because their popularity was presently overshadowed
by some larger but poorer quality U.S ministries. I saw that many
of these medium sized ministries already have a better walk with
the Lord and that they would therefore be less likely to be
influenced by the coming flood of deception. They will be seen to
be mature as they discern and avoid these deceptions. In due
course this will vindicate them and earn them respect from other
believers from around the world. Their ministries will then become
more popular and grow in influence because of this. I saw that
some of them will then start to minister and preach at the highest
levels on the world stage within the body of Christ in the future.
*I understand "deception" to mean all sorts of counterfeits of the
Holy Spirit. These will include counterfeit moves of God's power
which will come from other spirits, from New Age/occult spirits,
counterfeit healings and miracles even, false teachings, false
prophecies, counterfeit visions from the enemy, counterfeit
experiences of heaven, fake appearances of Jesus and, please
note, many counterfeit appearances of angels which will really be
fallen angels come to deceive any believers who are open to them.
Of course Christians can have such experiences genuinely from
the Lord but there is also going to be an increase in these
counterfeits as we move towards the end-times, as the enemy
attempts to "deceive if possible even the elect", (Matt 24;24).
*Concerning the U.S church, this increase in deception will have
its entitlement at a national/ corporate level. We should not
therefore see any deception as a judgement on individuals
themselves. At a personal level some believers will be more
exposed to these deceptions than others for reasons that are not
necessarily their fault, e.g. if they happen to be in a church where
the enemy is moving in a lot of deception. I believe, though, that
those whose hearts are set to follow Christ will eventually come
through any serious deception if they persevere in following the
Lord and keep on submitting to Him.
At an international level, though, this wave of enemy deception will
expose and reduce the global influence of the worst U.S ministries
and will bring about the realignment of national churches and
ministries that God desires. It will improve the quality of teaching
and the quality of the most well known ministries at an
international level. This is due to God's sovereignty, and will
strengthen the global body of Christ and prepare God's people for
the difficult years ahead.
-S. Dobbs, 30th Oct 2005.
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-given by Steven Dobbs (U.K.), 2005.
I received this from the Holy Spirit in early summer 2005. The
Lord showed me that there is going to be a flood of deception*
infiltrating much of the U.S church in the near future, (the gift of
discernment of spirits is therefore going to become increasingly
important). Why the Lord will allow these deceptions: I was
extremely disheartened by this as the U.K receives a lot of help
from some good U.S ministries and there are close links between
these two nations.
The Spirit then ministered to me again and showed me that God
was sovereign and that this was His will. I saw that although this
increase in deception will test the Christians in the U.S.A. It will
also filter the global church from the less reliable U.S teaching
ministries and reduce their influence in the global body of Christ.
Many of the world's largest and best known teaching ministries
come from the U.S.A. I was shown that many were propagating
poor, badly emphasized or erroneous teachings. The Lord showed
me that He could not allow them to continue influencing the
worldwide church as they are at present. This is because we will
soon be entering into the end times and this season will test the
faith of all of us. God therefore wants His people to be prepared for
this with good teachings that have the same emphasis as found in
the New Testament.
The filtering process: I was shown that the ministers that teach
errors or a poor emphasis will also tend to have this reflected in
their own walk with God. They will not therefore be rooted very
deeply into the truth themselves even though many of them may
be well known teachers or preachers. These people will therefore
tend to be amongst those most open to this flood of deception.
When exposed to such deception many of them will start to move
in increased spiritual error and folly as a result. Many will get
deceived as they fail to discern the difference between which
spiritual phenomena are of the Lord and which are counterfeit and
from the enemy. Their true spiritual maturity will then be revealed
for all to see.
Many other Christians from around the world, those who are able
to discern these things better, will then start to question the
maturity and teachings of such ministries. They will start to look
more closely at these teachings and notice the errors and wrong
emphases that already exist, errors that they had not noticed
before. People will then start to turn away from the worst teachers
and listen instead to those who are teaching the full council of God
in line with the whole of scripture. The overall level of teaching in
the global body of Christ will improve as a result of this.
How this will realign ministries: The ministries which have the
poorest levels of teaching will become less popular around the
world as a result of this. Those teaching ministries that are the
most mature and have the best quality teaching will become more
popular than before. The overall quality of teaching ministries in
the global body of Christ will therefore improve as a result of this
filtering effect.
The "prosperity gospel": God showed me that one of the main
teachings that He is concerned about is that which has become
known as the "prosperity gospel". Although truths are taught within
this I understood that errors and wrong emphases are taught as
well. At present this teaching has a great deal of influence in the
global body of Christ. This results in many believers around the
world taking on board the errors and wrong emphases contained
within it. I saw that the Lord does not want this situation to
continue. We are heading into the end times in the near future and
God wants us to be strong, built up with good, solid teachings that
prepare us for the difficulties we are going to encounter and the
sacrifices we may have to make to follow Christ.
A realigning of national churches at a global level: The Lord wants
those national churches that are submitting the most to Him to
have the greatest proportion of well known ministries at a global
level. The Spirit showed me that at present the U.S.A is over-
represented by such ministries. This filtering process will reduce
the number of influential U.S ministries on the world stage. At the
same time, other ministries from other nations will become more
popular and will increase in influence as a result of this. The overall
church of the U.S.A will also therefore lose some of its influence
within the global body of Christ because of this filtering. The
churches of some other nations, (those that have been submitting
the most to Christ), will, however, see an increase in their
influence in the global church.
This is God's will and the global body of Christ will be strengthened
as a result. The Lord wants the body of Christ to be led by, and
follow the example of, the best international ministries. He also
wants the global church to be influenced the most by those
national churches that are submitting the most to Jesus.
The better ministries from the U.S.A: I was then shown a picture
of a vessel of milk which had cream floating to the top of it. The
interpretation was that as this filtering takes place, and the overall
level of deception* increases in the U.S church, the better U.S
ministries will then come to the forefront at a global level. I
understood that many of these were presently only medium sized
ministries because their popularity was presently overshadowed
by some larger but poorer quality U.S ministries. I saw that many
of these medium sized ministries already have a better walk with
the Lord and that they would therefore be less likely to be
influenced by the coming flood of deception. They will be seen to
be mature as they discern and avoid these deceptions. In due
course this will vindicate them and earn them respect from other
believers from around the world. Their ministries will then become
more popular and grow in influence because of this. I saw that
some of them will then start to minister and preach at the highest
levels on the world stage within the body of Christ in the future.
*I understand "deception" to mean all sorts of counterfeits of the
Holy Spirit. These will include counterfeit moves of God's power
which will come from other spirits, from New Age/occult spirits,
counterfeit healings and miracles even, false teachings, false
prophecies, counterfeit visions from the enemy, counterfeit
experiences of heaven, fake appearances of Jesus and, please
note, many counterfeit appearances of angels which will really be
fallen angels come to deceive any believers who are open to them.
Of course Christians can have such experiences genuinely from
the Lord but there is also going to be an increase in these
counterfeits as we move towards the end-times, as the enemy
attempts to "deceive if possible even the elect", (Matt 24;24).
*Concerning the U.S church, this increase in deception will have
its entitlement at a national/ corporate level. We should not
therefore see any deception as a judgement on individuals
themselves. At a personal level some believers will be more
exposed to these deceptions than others for reasons that are not
necessarily their fault, e.g. if they happen to be in a church where
the enemy is moving in a lot of deception. I believe, though, that
those whose hearts are set to follow Christ will eventually come
through any serious deception if they persevere in following the
Lord and keep on submitting to Him.
At an international level, though, this wave of enemy deception will
expose and reduce the global influence of the worst U.S ministries
and will bring about the realignment of national churches and
ministries that God desires. It will improve the quality of teaching
and the quality of the most well known ministries at an
international level. This is due to God's sovereignty, and will
strengthen the global body of Christ and prepare God's people for
the difficult years ahead.
-S. Dobbs, 30th Oct 2005.
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Sunday, June 22, 2008
The Disarming Of The Church-1998 by John Green
PREPARED For The SLAUGHTER: The Disarming Of The Church
-1998 by John Green.
“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe.” – Noah Webster of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, 1787.
“[W]hen the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised by an artful man, who was governor of Pennsylvania, to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them; but that they should not do it openly, but weaken them, and let them sink gradually.” — George Mason of Virginia, 1788.
As history has shown, it is a common tactic for the oppressing force to gain control of a nation by seizing the means by which individuals might defend themselves. Once the citizenry are
disarmed, it is a relatively easy matter to exert complete tyrannical control. It seems to me that the same principal holds true in the spiritual realm.
The New Testament is replete with warnings of false teachers and teachings, of lying signs and wonders, and of corrupt men who would seek to draw followers after themselves. God has not left His people defenseless. He has indwelt us with His Spirit of Truth, provided us with the example of Christ, His teachings, the teachings of the apostles, and all the other writings found in the Bible. There is a gift of the discerning of spirits given to some, but more importantly, there the ability to test all things and to be discerning, which is the responsibility of all believers. If the
believer is to be armed against the deceptions of the enemy, and to remain free from his oppressive regime, then he must exercise discernment with continual vigilance. If this defensive weapon is seized and taken from you, then you are easy prey for any who would desire to take you captive.
Because of these things, it is very disturbing to me to observe a trend in the Body of Christ today. This trend is to scorn and belittle those who would exercise their God-given self-defense weapon of discernment. Those who would obey scripture and “test all things” are mocked and ridiculed and labeled ‘Pharisees.’ It seems that the Church has fallen prey to the pluralistic, non-judgmental mindset of our present age. The one unpardonable sin is to question someone’s belief, or dare to say that it might be wrong.
These new leaders demand you climb on the bandwagon, and if you cannot agree, then you must remain silent at all costs. They call for us to experience now, and evaluate later. Adam and Eve
had no experiential knowledge of good and evil. The Serpent called their attention to the attractiveness and desirability of the fruit, and enticed them to experience for themselves. In their later evaluation, they knew that they had been wrong to ignore what God had said on the matter, but by then the damage had been done.
Those who would remove the defensive weapon of discernment are binding the hands of the Church. They are preparing God’s people for the slaughter. Why are they doing this? Why would they want to expose millions to the myriad deceptions of the enemy with no protection. Why do they take away what the Father has given?
The Church is becoming a slaughterhouse slick with the spilled blood of saints who have been seduced by false teachers. The faithful plod forward to the killing floor, their trusting eyes fixed
on their leaders. Error and deception runs rampant. Charlatans rule the bestseller list. Pseudo-knowledge is dispersed around the world, speeding through electrical synapses. Make no mistake. It is a battle, and much is at stake.
Let us examine the logic (or lack of it) behind what some of these leaders are saying:
“You have to experience it yourself before you judge it.” This is pure nonsense. It is the method the Mormons use to get people hooked in (pray about the Book of Mormon and see if you get a
‘burning in your bosom’). You don’t have to experience suicide to know that it is bad for you. Christians are never commanded to authenticate a questionable spiritual experience by submitting themselves to it.
“If you don’t jump in the River, then you may miss out on the move of God.” If you don’t exercise your duty to test everything and hold on to what is good, then you may be deceived. God is not in a hurry. If you are walking with Him, seeking to please Him, then He will guide you into all He desires for you. Just because someone proclaims something is a move of God, doesn’t make it so. Beware of the salesman who pushes you to make a decision on the spot. He may have something to hide.
“God offends the mind to reveal the heart.” I don’t know what this is, but it is not Scripture. It is true that God’s ways may be offensive to human wisdom. Often though, this quote is used to say that if you are offended by something going on in the Church, then your heart isn’t right. The real issue is, are you offended because what is going on is unscriptural? If so, then stand fast.
“Don’t oppose what is going on, in case it turns out to be a move of God.” This is the argument used by Gamaliel in Acts chapter 5.
Although this argument worked in favor of the apostles, it must be pointed out that Gamaliel was a Pharisee making a pragmatic argument. His was not a directive from the Lord on how believers should conduct their discernment. If something is not from God, ultimately, it is true that it will not succeed. In the time that it takes for a false movement to runs its course however, many lives will be damaged, and many souls deceived and damned. Look at the phenomenal growth and apparent success of Mormonism.
Christians rightly oppose Mormonism on a basis that it twists and deviates from Scripture. Things which occur within Christianity should receive no less scrutiny. Or consider the works of Satan. We know that he will not succeed, but we certainly do not sit back and allow him to do his work unhindered. When souls are at stake, we cannot afford to sit back and do nothing.
“Don’t you want more of God in your life?” This is a sneaky one. Of course, any sincere Christian realizes that they need to grow closer to God, and they desire to do so. This should not lead us to
embrace everything that comes down the pike however. Part of growing closer to God includes obeying His commands to test and be discerning. The desperation of some Christians reminds me of King Saul turning to the witch of Endor. He wanted an answer at any price. The price he ended up paying was his own destruction.
Look for yourself. See how many times the New Testament references false teachers, false teaching. Using your concordance, look up the commands to discern and test, to not be deceived.
Shake off the chains of those who would seek to bind you. Exercise your “Right to bear arms” as a believer.
"The healthy soul, like the healthy blood system, has its proper proportion of white and red blood cells. The red corpuscles are like faith: they carry the life giving oxygen to every part of the body.
The white cells are like discernment: they pounce upon dead and toxic matter and carry it out to the drain. In the healthy heart there must be provision for keeping dead and poisonous matter out of the life stream." -A.W. Tozer.
http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/prepared-for-the-slaughter-the-disarming-of-the-church/
Wednesday, June 4, 2008
Deuteronomy 32:32-35 (King James Version)
32For their vine is of the vine of Sodom, and of the fields of Gomorrah: their grapes are grapes of gall, their clusters are bitter:
33Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.
34Is not this laid up in store with me, and sealed up among my treasures?
35To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
32For their vine is of the vine of Sodom, and of the fields of Gomorrah: their grapes are grapes of gall, their clusters are bitter:
33Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.
34Is not this laid up in store with me, and sealed up among my treasures?
35To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
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